Hey, Edward Ohare

[toto]

Comment from the pagan board on your story:

She thinks you are a woman. I did not disabuse her of the notion
at this point.

with the virgin birth, having a better miracle than the
Pagan's could offer.

Um... not that I don't understand that the story is tongue in cheek,
but virgin births were actually a quite common theme in pre-Christian
religions. In fact, the Roman God Mithra was believed to have been
born of a virgin on December 25 (which was when the solstice fell
before the Gregorian calendar replaced the Julian.) Mithra's birth was
also said to have been attended by shepherds and magi, and in general
His life was so similar to Christ's story that St. Augustine once
declared that the two religions worshipped the same God.

Other than that - sorry, I have no real opinion on the story other
than that "your friend the troll" seems to have way too much time on
her hands. wink


One of the atheists commented that she enjoyed reading it.

Only two comments so far though.



--
Dorothy

There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..

The Outer Limits

[edward ohare]

Post by toto
She thinks you are a woman.

I wonder what made that conclusion happen?

Post by toto
I did not disabuse her of the notion
at this point.

Hmmm...

Post by toto

with the virgin birth, having a better miracle than the
Pagan's could offer.

Um... not that I don't understand that the story is tongue in cheek,
but virgin births were actually a quite common theme in pre-Christian
religions. In fact, the Roman God Mithra was believed to have been
born of a virgin on December 25 (which was when the solstice fell
before the Gregorian calendar replaced the Julian.) Mithra's birth was
also said to have been attended by shepherds and magi, and in general
His life was so similar to Christ's story that St. Augustine once
declared that the two religions worshipped the same God.

Interesting. Did the Christians invent anything? (Note the only
thing I credited them with was the virgin birth, claiming they
borrowed everything else about Christmas.)

Of course, all this fascination with virgins and promotion of chastity
is because of men's jealously at being unable to have multiple
orgasms.

Post by toto
Other than that - sorry, I have no real opinion on the story other
than that "your friend the troll" seems to have way too much time on
her hands. wink

There it is! ("her")

The time involved in writing an article isn't very great. The ideas
take some time but car time is otherwise wasted time and is ideal for
coming up with ideas.

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One of the atheists commented that she enjoyed reading it.

Cool.

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Only two comments so far though.

Actually, I just wrote it for you. Had it been a troll, I'd have
crossposted it. Realistically, alt.fan.toto isn't widely read.

You're welcome to post my comments to wherever it is you posted the
original article.

[r***@yahoo.co.uk]

Post by toto
Um... not that I don't understand that the story is tongue in cheek,
but virgin births were actually a quite common theme in pre-Christian
religions.

I'm afraid you've been misled by some of the "pagan christs" nonsense
which goes around online, all going back to a book of that title by a
certain Kelsey Graves in the last century. The book is online and has
the unusual distinction of carrying a health warning at Internet
Infidels (for being a load of bollocks, basically).

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In fact, the Roman God Mithra was believed to have been
born of a virgin on December 25 (which was when the solstice fell
before the Gregorian calendar replaced the Julian.) Mithra's birth was
also said to have been attended by shepherds and magi, and in general
His life was so similar to Christ's story that St. Augustine once
declared that the two religions worshipped the same God.

Almost all of this is untrue. No such statements are recorded about
Mithras, and there is no association with 25 Dec. The Roman solstice
was on 22 Dec; indeed Julian the Apostate makes the point that the
solstice falls before the festival of the "Heliaea" (after Helios, the
sun God) and that the festival takes place once people can see the
longer days.

The idea that Augustine said any such thing is ridiculous.

I hope this helps. There is just way too much disinformation going
around -- and I really don't see who benefits from this stuff going in
the hive-mind.

All the best,

Roger Pearse